Committee on Finance

Thursday, June 4, 2026, 10 a.m. (New York City time), Council Chambers - City Hall

Committee: Committee on Finance

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The Committee on Finance held three FY27 executive budget hearings on June 4, 2026: the Department of Social Services (HRA/DHS), the Department of Sanitation, and the Conflict of Interest Board. The DSS hearing focused on the $124.7 billion executive budget, SNAP work requirements under HR 1, City FHEPS cost containment, shelter census, vacancy reductions, and consultant contracts. The Sanitation hearing covered containerization expansion, lot cleaning staffing, vending enforcement, snow removal, and facility investments. The COIB hearing addressed staffing, pay equity, and IT infrastructure needs for the agency overseeing 300,000+ public servants. No formal votes were taken; the hearings were for budget oversight and question-and-answer purposes.

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0:00 Want to say we really

0:00 appreciate the fact you guys

0:01 printed so many copies for us,

0:03 and that goes a long

0:05 . Way. Welcome, commissioner

0:07 aaron dalton and your team and

0:08 thank you all for joining us

0:11 today to answer questions on

0:13 May 12 2026, the

0:14 administration released the

0:16 executive financial plan for f

0:17 I 26 2 30 with a proposed 2

0:20 7budget $124.7 billion hr is

0:24 proposed fiscal 27 budget of

0:28 represents 11.7% of the

0:30 administration's proposed a 2

0:32 7budget in the executive plan

0:34 and this is a decrease of or

0:36 point 2% from the originally

0:41 budgeted in the 27 preliminary

0:45 plan. This decrease results

0:46 from several actions, mostly

0:47 City effects cost containment

0:49 plans and cash assistance re

0:50 estimate savings as of April

0:52 26, it jury's actual head

0:53 count is 10810 and budget head

0:57 count is 12445 wit ah vacancy

1:00 rate of 13.1% proposed 2

1:04 7budget of represents 3.4% of

1:08 the administration's proposed

1:10 27 budget and this is a

1:12 8.9% from the originally

1:19 budgeted in the f a 27

1:22 preliminary plan. This

1:23 decrease results from several

1:24 actions, including the shelter

1:25 cost containment plan, a re

1:27 estimate to project costs for

1:29 the asylum seeker response and

1:30 the elimination of 183

1:31 positions at the as of April

1:36 26 justice actual head count

1:37 is 1616, and the budget had

1:41 account is 2021, a vacancy

1:43 rate of 20% in the counsel's

1:46 preliminary budget response we

1:47 called on the Mayor to add 8

1:51 21 million 2 juries budget t

1:52 oinvest in fair fares to more

1:55 accurately budget for hossa

1:56 emergency shelters and to

1:57 baseline one time funding

1:58 added in fiscal 26, only for

2:02 housing stability, micrograms

2:05 for impacted individuals. The

2:06 anti harassment tenant

2:07 protection legal services

2:09 program and to continue

2:10 funding the legal services

2:12 pilot for survivors and

2:15 divorce proceedings. We were

2:16 pleased to see that a request

2:16 was partially included in the

2:17 plan with more than half of

2:19 our totalundi fng request for

2:21 f being included and baseline

2:23 in the out years. However, we

2:25 continue to hear the same

2:26 contracting issues from human

2:29 service providers as a forme

2:30 rof a community based

2:31 organization. I'm all too

2:32 familiar with the struggles

2:33 providers face when

2:34 reimbursements are not made in

2:36 a timely manner delayed

2:38 reimbursements. Put those in

2:39 difficult positions where they

2:40 end up scrambling to make

2:41 payroll and ensure that

2:43 services do not get disrupted

2:46 in addition to delays and

2:47 reimbursements to providers

2:48 have experienced stagnant

2:50 reimbursement rates frequent

2:51 changes in contracting steps

2:52 and approvals and few

2:54 opportunities to expan

2:55 dservices and funding these

2:57 issues on top of vo those

2:58 losses of federal dollars post

3:01 further challenges t

3:02 oorganizations that serve the

3:04 most vulnerable residents of

3:05 our City. I look forward to

3:07 hearing from you, commissioner

3:08 on how will help human

3:11 resources, human resources

3:13 providers and our most

3:13 vulnerable residents through

3:15 these challenges now and in

3:15 the years to come and I now

3:18 want to turn to my co chair of

3:20 this hearing chairman chair

3:21 and Council Member Hudson for

3:23 her opening statement. Thank

3:24 . You so much chair Lee and

3:26 good morning. I'm Crystal

3:27 Hudson of the general welfare

3:28 committee and my pronouns or

3:31 she her? Thank you for joining

3:32 us for the fiscal 20 27

3:34 executive budget hearing for

3:35 the general welfare committee.

3:37 We will hear from to agencies,

3:39 the human resources

3:40 administration, or h and and

3:41 the department of homeless

3:44 services testifying under the

3:45 umbrella of the department of

3:46 social services, or I'm

3:49 pleased to be here with my

3:50 colleague, chair of the

3:51 committee on finance council

3:53 member Linda Lee, city's

3:54 proposed fiscal 20 2

3:56 7executive budget totals $124.7

4:00 billion, of which or 15.1%

4:06 funds, making it the secon

4:07 dlargest agency budget after

4:08 the department of education

4:11 .this encompasses $14.6 billion

4:18 for 4. Two to billion for

4:19 . There were notable changes

4:20 made in the executive plan for

4:21 both agencies saw New needs

4:22 totaling 234 to me $235.4

4:27 million in fiscal 2027

4:29 ,growing to approximately $263

4:32 million in the out years for

4:35 several programs, including

4:35 domestic violence, shelters,

4:38 legal services, fair fares and

4:39 agencies staffing due to the

4:41 savings mandates and vacancy

4:42 reductions required by the

4:44 Mayor mayor's executive order

4:49 $1275.2 million in savings and

4:50 fiscal 2027 and $274.1 millio

4:55 nin savings baseline starting

4:57 in fiscal 20028, the largest

4:59 savings will be achieved in

5:00 the City thefts program

5:01 through a containment pla

5:05 nonly saw New needs in fiscal

5:06 20 26 with $72.7 million added

5:10 for operational costs at

5:11 contract and shelter providers

5:12 and maintenance of it programs

5:17 . Executive plan include

5:17 dsavings of $356.7 million I

5:20 nfiscal 20 27, largely from a

5:23 shelter cost containment plan

5:24 with the level of savings

5:25 decreasing in the out years.

5:28 The council's budget response

5:29 called on the administration

5:30 to restore baseline one year

5:32 funding included in fiscal

5:35 2026, only for joint

5:35 priorities, and I was glad t

5:36 osee that the administration.

5:39 Baseline, $25 million starting

5:40 in fiscal 20 27 to support

5:42 their fares as well as

5:43 baseline funding for legal

5:46 services, housing stability

5:46 micro grants for domestic

5:48 violence impacted individuals

5:49 and to continue the legal

5:50 services pilot for and divorce

5:55 proceedings.

5:55 Well, I know all agencies

5:56 were under a mayoral mandate

5:58 to generate savings. I'm

5:58 concerned about how the

6:00 vacancy reductions, which

6:00 eliminated 183 positions at

6:03 and 79 positions at impact the

6:07 agency's ability to maintain

6:08 their current level of

6:09 services at a time when they

6:10 are more needed than ever. I'm

6:13 also concerned about the areas

6:13 where the budget not

6:15 adequately support the

6:16 sential programs

6:17 administered by and the

6:19 necessary level of staffing

6:20 required to provide clients

6:21 with services and a timely

6:24 manner well has been able to

6:25 improve the timeliness rates

6:26 for snap and cash assistance

6:28 applications denial rates have

6:29 increased, which is especially

6:31 troubling given the recently

6:32 implemented federal work

6:35 requirements

6:35 . We've still been hearing

6:36 that is very difficult to get

6:37 through to by phone and that

6:40 clients are experiencing very

6:40 long wait times at centers

6:43 while is shelter. Census has

6:45 decreased slightly in the past

6:47 few months it remains above

6:50 80000 placements into

6:50 subsidized housing must be

6:51 accelerated in order to

6:53 significantly decrease the

6:53 number of people living in our

6:54 cities shelter system programs

6:57 such as City flaps are more

6:58 important than ever, and the

6:59 best way to move long term

7:02 shelter residents into stable,

7:03 permanent housing

7:03 . However, this program is

7:05 still challenging for many to

7:06 access on top of the

7:07 difficulty of finding

7:08 affordable housing in a very

7:11 expensive City. I'm concerned

7:12 the City febreze cos

7:12 tcontainment savings impact and

7:14 further delay and already time

7:16 sensitive application process

7:18 for clients in today's hearing

7:19 we look forward to discussin

7:20 gadjustments made in the

7:21 executive plan, including New

7:24 needs and the vacancy

7:25 reductions in.

7:25 Savings. It is the council's

7:26 job to carefully review the

7:28 budgets and operations of City

7:29 agencies to ensure that we are

7:31 good stewards of public

7:31 dollars and that we are

7:33 providing our city's most

7:34 vulnerable residents with the

7:35 services they need, and this

7:36 is a job I take very seriously

7:40 . Finally, I would like t

7:40 othank general welfare

7:41 committee staff for their work

7:42 on preparing this hearing.

7:44 Maria roman senior financial

7:46 analyst elizabeth shoulders

7:47 garcia senior financial

7:48 analyst julia paramus,

7:50 assistant director, a man t

7:51 okill owen, senior counsel

7:53 Pierina rosenberg senior

7:55 policy analyst Justin campos,

7:56 policy alystna brian scarfo

7:57 finance committee counsel, my

8:00 chief of staff andrew, right,

8:01 aleka ruined tan, senior

8:02 manager of policy and

8:03 communications and demi brown,

8:04 my deputy chief of staff and

8:06 now commissioner dalton, our

8:08 finance council will swear you

8:09 in. Thank you. Thank you. So

8:13 lquick housekeepingned by

8:17 announcement that I've been

8:18 making at every hearing, which

8:19 is that as a reminder. I see a

8:21 lot of our awesome nonprofit

8:24 provider, a staff who are here

8:26 today, so wanted to remind

8:28 everyone that we are having

8:29 all of the agency public

8:33 testimony testimony on

8:34 Wednesday, June 10 beginning

8:35 at 9 30, so all the City

8:37 agencies public testimony.

8:38 We're doing it all in one day

8:39 ,so it's going to be a long day

8:40 , but we'll try to make it as

8:41 interesting as possible and on

8:44 time as possible, so please

8:45 make sure to sign up for

8:47 public testimony on Wednesday,

8:50 June 10, and I will now turn

8:50 it over to our committee

8:51 counselors were in the

8:58 witnesses. Good morning. Do

8:58 you affirm to tell the truth,

8:59 the whole truth and nothing

9:00 but the truth before this

9:01 committee and to respond

9:03 honelyst to Council Member

9:04 questions commissioner dalton.

9:07 I do?

9:08 Administrator french. I do

9:11 administrator fellini, first

9:12 deputy garden garden. Okay. Uh

9:17 oh. Chief johns. I do an

9:27 officer, gonzalez

9:28 . You be Gale. Good morning

9:31 , I want to thank speaker

9:32 mennen chair chair, person

9:33 Hudson share personall

9:34 ymembers of the committee on

9:36 general welfarend m aembers of

9:37 the committee on finance for

9:38 holding today's hearing and

9:39 for the opportunity to testify

9:41 about the department of social

9:42 services fiscal year 20 2

9:46 7executive budget. My name is

9:47 aaron dalton, commissioner for

9:48 New York City department of

9:49 social services. I am joined

9:51 by human resources

9:52 administration administrator

9:53 scott french department of

9:55 homeless services interim

9:55 administrator christine

9:58 fellini, first deputy

9:59 commissioner's commissioner

10:00 sarah to guard chief program

10:03 performance off and financial

10:05 officer richard johns and

10:06 chief strategy officer Chris

10:08 gonzalez. Collectively we

10:10 represent approximately 12500

10:12 hardworking staff who dedicate

10:13 their lives to supporting New

10:15 yorkers living at or below the

10:18 poverty line as I approache

10:19 dmy first three months as

10:19 commissioner. I want t

10:20 oexpress my gratitude to the

10:22 dedicated staff as well as our

10:25 nonprofit providers advocates,

10:26 community partners and clients

10:27 who have helped me to better

10:29 understand the extraordinary

10:30 scope and complexity of New

10:31 York city's social safety net

10:34 since stepping into this role

10:35 I visited dozens of shelters h

10:37 r a benefits access centers

10:37 across the five boroughs

10:39 shadowed outrage, teams

10:40 working with New yorkers

10:42 experiencing straight

10:43 melessness and joint staff

10:44 and door to door outreach

10:45 efforts to help snap

10:47 recipients understand New

10:47 federal work requirements and

10:49 avoid losing critical benefits

10:51 these experiences have

10:52 deepened my appreciation for

10:53 both the challenges our

10:56 clients face and the

10:56 commitment of the people who

10:57 serve them every day.

10:58 I have these first months

10:59 listening and learning. And

11:00 while I've gained valuable

11:02 insight I recognize there's

11:03 much, much more to learn, and

11:04 I look forward to continuing

11:06 that work in partnership with

11:07 all of you

11:09 , I would like to take this

11:10 opportunity to express my

11:11 appreciation for the

11:11 conscientious leadership of

11:12 the New York City Council in

11:14 New York City Council as we

11:16 engage in the challenging

11:19 issues, addresses. I've had a

11:20 chance to meet with a number

11:21 of council members during my

11:21 time here and hear about the

11:23 successes, ideas and concerns

11:24 that impact your constituents

11:26 for those of you. I have not

11:28 engaged with directly. Yet I

11:29 look forward to that future

11:33 collaboration supporting

11:33 vulnerable populations trouble

11:34 , trouble shooting on the

11:35 ground challenges in

11:36 neighborhoods as they arise

11:37 and delivering social services

11:39 to New yorkers that meet the

11:40 high standards Mayor madonna

11:43 set out is consistently on my

11:43 mind and our work and in our

11:46 budget the topic at hand today

11:50 , is pleased to play a major

11:50 part in pursuing the whole of

11:52 government vision presented by

11:53 Mayor ma'am donny's housing

11:55 plan published last week

11:55 blocked by block the housing

11:56 plan for a New era alongside

11:59 our sister agencies, including

12:00 the department of housing

12:02 preservation and development

12:03 in New York City housing

12:04 authority, the department of

12:05 health and mental hygiene and

12:06 New York City health and

12:09 hospitals serves as a partner

12:10 in tackling the housing crisis

12:12 and uplifting the marriage of

12:13 a City more affordable for

12:17 working people contributions

12:18 to that comprehensive housing

12:19 strategy include investments

12:20 in technology and systems that

12:22 connect New yorkers

12:23 experiencing homelessness t

12:24 ohousing, streamlining the

12:27 support housing application

12:27 process pursuing reforms to

12:29 minimize the amount of time

12:30 people spend in shelter and

12:32 breaking down bottlenecks and

12:33 barriers crucial to housing

12:34 stability to better serve

12:38 clients.

12:38 As you know, through serves

12:41 approximately 3 million New

12:42 yorkers on any given day.

12:44 The consolidated management

12:45 structure and the shared

12:45 mission of the Eric agencies

12:48 provides an integrated

12:49 continuum of client services

12:50 that helps create a path t

12:52 osustainability for low income