Committee on Health

Wednesday, July 15, 2026, 10 a.m. (New York City time), Council Chambers - City Hall

Committee: Committee on Health

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The Committee on Health held an extensive hearing on Introduction 943 ('Roman's Law'), sponsored by Council Member Christopher Marte, which would prohibit the operation of horse-drawn carriages in New York City. The hearing followed the death of 18-year-old Roman Mahajan, an Indian tourist who fell from a horse-drawn carriage in Central Park on June 17, 2026, when the driver stepped away and the horse bolted. The administration (DOHMH and DCWP) testified in support of the bill's intent while raising concerns about sufficiency of worker protections. Council members extensively questioned the administration on oversight, enforcement, stable conditions, and the proposed phase-out. Many hours of public testimony were heard from the victim's family, animal welfare advocates, equine veterinarians, the carriage industry and its union (TWU Local 100), and sanctuaries. No vote was taken at this hearing.

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0:15 morning. Welcome today's New

0:16 York City Council hearing for

0:17 the committee on health. He

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0:29 government proceeding chair,

0:29 we are ready to begin.

0:35 Good morning. I am council

0:37 member Lynn Schulman of the

0:39 New York City Council's

0:40 committee on health today, the

0:41 committee on health will hear

0:43 introduction 943, sponsored by

0:46 council mart martin in

0:47 relation to prohibiting the

0:48 operation of horse drawn cabs.

0:51 I would like to recognize tha

0:52 twe have been joined by speaker

0:52 men and by council members

0:58 . Mart, genero wang Epstein De

1:03 La Joann Ariola month, roman

1:05 maha john and his family wer

1:06 evisiting New York City from

1:07 india when they took a horse

1:09 carriage ride in central park

1:11 during the ride, the carriage

1:12 driver stepped away from the

1:13 carriage to take a photograph

1:15 of the family, the horse

1:19 bolted, causing romansch, his

1:20 mother, pria to fall out of

1:21 the carriage roman than either

1:23 jumped or fell from the

1:25 carriage suffering a severe

1:26 head injury, he tragically

1:28 lost clyde later that day, my

1:31 heart goes out to the maha

1:32 family for the unimaginable

1:34 loss they have endured. Please

1:35 join me in a moment of silence

1:37 in memory of romance,

1:52 thank you. I will now turn

1:53 it over to speaker men in for

1:54 her opening remarks

1:56 . Thank you, everyone. I'm

1:56 jueli Menin, of the New York

1:58 City Council and I want t

2:00 owelcome all of you to this

2:02 important hearing. I first of

2:03 all want to thank my colleague

2:05 or health care council members

2:08 showman for convening today's

2:09 hearing and I want to thank my

2:11 colleague councilmember hey,

2:14 the sponsor of romance law, so

2:17 to the mahajan family. There

2:19 are no words for romance chose

2:22 death when I spoke to you this

2:24 morning and I heard the pain

2:25 in your voice. We there is

2:30 nothing we can do to bring him

2:32 back. But what we can do is

2:35 honor his legacy, which is

2:37 what we're doing today at this

2:39 hearing to make sure that this

2:42 type of tragedy never ever

2:45 happens again and so I just

2:47 khere. I know this is not easy

2:51 and we're going to hear from

2:52 you in a few minutes and our

2:55 condolences extend to your

2:58 whole family. Um, we know when

2:59 a young person is taken from

3:01 us cut off in their prime of

3:03 life as raymond was with the

3:05 world of potential going to

3:07 college ahead of him. It is,

3:09 and I say this as a mom. It's

3:11 like, really deeply heart

3:13 wrenching when that death was

3:14 avoidable where he could be

3:16 alive if only we had acted

3:17 sooner. It is a call to actio

3:20 nfor all people of good

3:23 conscience for your family for

3:24 all the families and for our

3:25 City. We are here to ensure

3:27 that this never happens again.

3:31 This issue is not New to our

3:33 City. It's certainly not New

3:35 to City government. There are

3:36 many people who are in this

3:38 chamber's who've been working

3:38 on this issue for many, many

3:41 years, but it has never come

3:45 to fruition the matter of

3:46 horse carriages or maintenance

3:48 or safety and operation has

3:49 come up under previous mayors

3:51 in previous City councils

3:53 every year for almost for

3:58 decades. The time to act is

4:03 now.

4:03 This is not a simple issue

4:04 because this industry is

4:06 historically and culturally

4:08 significant for years horse

4:10 carriages have been synonymous

4:11 where their iconic world class

4:15 tourism. The rides they

4:16 provide have given visitors an

4:17 opportunity to slow down and

4:19 take in the sights of our City

4:20 and they have given hundreds

4:22 of hard working immigrant New

4:25 yorkers the dignity of a good

4:28 paying job. These are drivers

4:29 who care deeply for their

4:30 horses and who takes the

4:31 safety of their passengers and

4:34 pedestrians extremely

4:35 seriously. I do not take these

4:39 considerations lately. Anytime

4:40 there is possibility of ending

4:41 anne industry the possibility

4:43 of job losses for small

4:45 business owners and employees

4:46 .we obviously need to think

4:47 carefully about that. I'm a

4:50 former small business owner

4:51 myself. I understand the

4:54 challenges and burdens of

4:55 operating and working for one

4:57 ,so I'm committing here today

5:00 that we are going to charge a

5:03 path forward to protect the

5:05 workers and ensure that they

5:07 have good paying jobs and

5:09 moving forward whether it be

5:11 in the hospitality or tourism

5:12 or other industry, we know

5:15 that you are a vital threat of

5:16 the fabric of this City and we

5:18 will not exclude you from thi

5:22 sconversation. I'm also very

5:23 committed to ensuring that

5:24 horses involved are treated

5:27 fairly and compassionately,

5:28 and we will ensure through

5:31 this bill that we will

5:34 guarantee their safety and

5:34 well being as well. So that

5:37 brings us to the pivotal

5:38 crossroads where we stand

5:40 today as public servants. We

5:42 must respond to the concerns

5:44 of our constituents and we

5:47 must recognize that the

5:48 appetite towards banning horse

5:50 carriages has grown

5:52 significantly over the past

5:53 four decades New yorkers have

5:55 long been concerned about

5:59 public safety with scores of

6:00 accidents and close calls

6:02 involving horses, passengers,

6:04 commuters maintaining large

6:06 and naturally skittish animals

6:07 and are chaotic. City is a

6:12 dangerous combination and

6:12 sadly with romance, death we

6:14 have now reached a turning

6:17 point. We have also become a

6:18 City that is overwhelmingly

6:21 supportive of the humane

6:24 treatment of animals, and

6:25 there have been many incidents

6:27 involving horses collapsing in

6:30 the hot, congested environment

6:32 of our streets accordingly.

6:34 Nearly 70 of New yorkers are

6:37 supportive of phasing out this

6:39 practice and we want to be

6:41 clear, the counsel's focus is

6:43 on ending this tradition while

6:45 protecting the workers whose

6:47 livelihoods depend on it and

6:48 we will ensure strong worker

6:52 protections in this bill, we

6:54 can and we should have this

6:56 conversation today with

6:58 respect and with empathy, no

6:59 matter where we stand on this

7:01 issue, I hope and I know that

7:04 this hearing will maintain a

7:04 tone of somberness of

7:08 sensitivity and civility for

7:10 everyone who has come here

7:12 today. I'm looking forward to

7:14 hearing from the

7:14 administration from the

7:16 industry from advocates and

7:17 most of all from romance chas

7:21 family. I'm also so incredibly

7:23 sorry as I said from the

7:23 beginning for your loss

7:27 . And for those of you that

7:28 don't know this aspect.

7:29 Vermont in an act of heroism

7:31 as he tried to protect his

7:34 mother, now a law named in his

7:37 honor will protect countless

7:39 others residents, tourists,

7:42 humans and horses, while

7:43 there's nothing we can do t

7:45 osadly change a tragedy of his

7:48 death. Passing his law is one

7:49 way to seek justice for him

7:51 and his family to keep his

7:53 blessed memory alive and to

7:55 carry his brave and

7:58 compassionate

7:58 . Spirit forward, so I now

7:59 want to turn it over to

8:00 council members showman again.

8:03 Thank you

8:04 , thank you, speaker man in

8:06 circumstances surrounding

8:07 roman's deeply disturbing the

8:09 driver's conduct was reckless,

8:10 unacceptable. And this young

8:11 man's death was entirely

8:15 preventable. This recent

8:15 tragedy comes on the heels of

8:17 other high profile incidents

8:18 in which carriage horses have

8:20 broken free, collapsed and

8:22 died. These include denise, a

8:23 carriage was who died in after

8:25 eating a plant toxic to horses

8:27 and writer a horse who

8:28 collapsed in hell's kitchen in

8:31 20 22 and was later euthanized

8:33 these incidents have

8:34 intensified a debate that has

8:35 been taking place for years in

8:38 our City about the welfare of

8:38 carriage horses. The safety of

8:40 our residents and visitors the

8:42 livelihoods of carriage

8:43 drivers and the future of the

8:44 horse carriage industry. Today

8:46 we are discussing legislation

8:47 that, if enacted, would wind

8:50 down the horse carriage

8:51 industry introduction. 943

8:53 Would prohibit the issuance of

8:55 New horse carriage operator

8:56 licenses after June 1 2028 an

8:59 dwould also prohibit the

9:00 operation, of course, joining

9:02 cabs after that.

9:02 Date the bell would also

9:04 require the humane disposition

9:05 of former carriage horses,

9:07 including prohibiting their

9:08 sale or transfer for slaughter

9:10 or for use in another horse

9:11 drawn care business. Finally

9:14 ,the bill would require the

9:15 department of consumer and

9:16 work of protection and the

9:17 mayor's office of talent and

9:19 work development to develop a

9:20 job for training program for

9:22 former drivers and other

9:23 workers involved in the

9:25 industry with the goal of

9:26 facilitating the transition to

9:28 other fields of employment.

9:29 This is an industry with a

9:30 long history in New York City

9:31 and for generations, carriage

9:35 drivers have built their

9:35 livelihoods around this work,

9:36 but times are changing and we

9:38 cannot ignore these tragic

9:40 incidents or the serious

9:41 public safety concerns they

9:44 have raised the landscape of

9:45 our City has changed

9:46 dramatically central park in

9:47 the surrounding streets are

9:49 ebicycles, e bikes, pennekamp

9:53 scooters, vehicles and horse

9:55 drawn carriages increasingly

9:56 competing for space when a

9:58 horse becomes distressed,

9:59 collapses or breaks free in

10:01 this environment the

10:02 consequences are devastating

10:03 not only for the horse, but

10:05 for drivers, passengers and

10:06 everyone sharing our streets

10:07 and public spaces. This is

10:10 fundamentally an issue tha

10:11 tgreatly affects the public.

10:14 These concerns are not based

10:14 on a single.

10:15 Incident for years, New

10:18 yorkers advocates elected

10:19 officials and others have

10:20 raised questions about animal

10:22 welfare and public safety

10:22 within the horse carriage

10:25 industry, last month's

10:26 devastating tragedy has forced

10:27 us to confront these concerns

10:28 in a New light and consider

10:30 whether it is time for a New

10:34 path forward

10:34 . As we consider the future of

10:35 this industry. We must

10:37 carefully examine what a

10:39 responsible transition would

10:40 require both for the horses

10:41 and for the people whose

10:42 livelihoods depend on this

10:45 work, we must consider how to

10:46 protect the horses by placing

10:47 them in safe and caring homes.

10:49 We must also recognize the

10:50 drivers and workers who have

10:52 devoted years and in some

10:54 cases generations to this

10:55 industry as well as the

10:57 significant investments they

10:58 have made in their carriage

11:00 licenses. We must consider how

11:02 to provide drivers with

11:03 meaningful opportunities for

11:05 New employment. My hope is

11:06 that we can bring people

11:07 together around these shared

11:09 responsibilities. I know

11:10 emotions are running hig

11:11 htoday on all sides of this

11:12 issue and I want to conclude

11:14 by reminding everyone that

11:15 although there be strong

11:16 opinions on this legislation

11:18 and on the future of this

11:19 industry we must maintain a

11:22 civil and respectful

11:23 proceeding. The purpose of

11:23 this hearing is to ensure that

11:25 all voices and all

11:26 perspectives can be heard

11:29 today. We must maintain

11:29 decorum throughout the

11:30 proceedings, I would like I

11:32 would also like to thank the

11:34 representatives for the

11:35 administration for being her

11:35 eand I want to thank the

11:37 committee staff and I want t

11:39 omake mention the committee

11:39 staff has worked an enormous

11:42 amount of hours and an

11:43 enormous amount of days and

11:45 worked really hard on this and

11:47 so I really want to thank the

11:48 mfrom the bottom of my heart,

11:50 Chris pepe newman, elizabeth

11:51 thought for their hard wor

11:52 kand preparing for this hearing

11:53 as well as my team, jonathan

11:56 boucher, Kevin mcaleer and

11:57 sami no. Before I hand it over

11:59 to Council Member mart, a

12:00 brief statement on his

12:01 legislation. I want to. I I

12:04 want to let people know that

12:06 you can request translation

12:07 and the following language is

12:08 spanish, hindi tragic turkish,

12:12 turkish and russian. So if

12:14 anybody needs anything. Please

12:15 let the sergeant's now. Now I

12:16 will turn it over to council

12:18 member mart for a brief

12:19 statement on his legislation

12:23 . Good morning, everyone. I

12:23 like to give a huge thank you

12:25 to speaker men in showman for

12:27 holding today's historic

12:28 hearing and to the thousands

12:30 of advocates and everyday New

12:31 yorkers who for years have

12:33 been demanding. We take action

12:35 on horse carriages in central

12:37 park for decades we've seen

12:39 horse carriages live in

12:42 cramped stables. We've seen

12:42 the mark through midtown

12:44 traffic breathing in exhaust

12:46 we've seen the poor thousands

12:46 of pounds in the heat and in

12:49 the cold we've seen them t

12:51 oget scared, run off and die in

12:54 the streets every time an

12:57 incident occurs, we are given

13:00 an excuse. We are told this is

13:00 just an isolated incident and

13:03 the industry is completely

13:04 safe, but the reality is that

13:05 in the past 34 years there

13:08 have been 128 documented horse

13:13 carriage accidents, dirty

13:14 horses have died. Dozens of

13:15 horses and people have been

13:17 injured and hospitalized

13:18 vehicles have been damaged and

13:21 destroyed and most recently we

13:22 lost a life of a young tourist

13:27 from ma as legislators now is

13:30 the time for serious

13:31 accountability while the cit

13:32 ycouncil has dragged its feet

13:34 through endless debates we now

13:36 have the loss of a boy on our

13:39 hands. These are not unrelated

13:41 accidents, but a pattern o

13:42 ffailure that proves this

13:44 industry does not work I

13:45 nmodern day New York City

13:48 during this hearing, we're