Committee on Education

Wednesday, June 24, 2026, 1 p.m. (New York City time), Council Chambers - City Hall

Committee: Committee on Education

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0:06 Already the no good afternoon

0:06 .welcome today's New York City

0:28 council hearing for the

0:29 committee on education join

0:30 with the committee on

0:32 technology, please. Science,

0:33 all cell phone electronic

0:35 devices and as a friendly

0:36 reminded do not approach today

0:37 is if you wish to testify

0:39 today. Please fill out an

0:40 appearance car when the

0:41 sergeant at arms.

0:42 No further do with chairs.

0:43 We are ready to begin. Thank

0:48 you. Good afternoon, everyone.

0:48 I'm Council Member Eric

0:50 Dinowitz, York City public

0:51 school alum, although with a

0:53 different signature on my

0:56 diploma, public school special

0:57 education teacher and chair of

0:58 the committee on education and

1:00 I am excited to be joined by

1:02 my friend from the south chair

1:04 of the committee on technology

1:07 Council Member delarosa for

1:08 today's hearing on artificial

1:09 intelligence students data and

1:11 privacy in New York City

1:14 public schools. Today's

1:15 hearing will examine the

1:16 landscape of a I use in New

1:17 York City public schools,

1:19 particularly as it relates to

1:22 academic integrity and student

1:23 data and privacy. The rapid

1:27 proliferation of has sparked

1:29 intense citywide debate about

1:30 the role of and use of a I in

1:33 schools in we issued

1:35 preliminary guidelines for a I

1:36 in public schools, but the

1:39 guidance has faced strong

1:41 opposition from parents and

1:42 advocacy groups alike, many

1:45 council members, including

1:46 myself and numerous community

1:48 education councils have gone

1:50 as far as calling for a two

1:51 year moratorium on the use of

1:53 student facing a I in schools.

1:56 They point ongoing worries

1:57 about data privacy breaches

1:58 and lack of transparency and

2:01 very troublingly for me as a

2:04 former teacher cognitive

2:06 offloading an algorithmic bia

2:09 s

2:09 . Others, however, argue that

2:10 the question of allowing a in

2:11 schools is no lgeron relevant

2:14 national survey data show that

2:16 related activities. Instead,

2:23 they argue the question should

2:23 be. How do we harness it

2:26 safely equitably and

2:27 effectively for our students.

2:30 Underlying this debate is the

2:31 issue of data collection by

2:34 third party vendors. My mother

2:36 deweese policy aligns with

2:38 national standards, a 20 26

2:39 audit by the state comptroller

2:41 found that dewey does not have

2:43 a documented data

2:47 classification policy and does

2:47 not maintain a comprehensive

2:49 list of all application used

2:50 by each school with a number

2:54 of high profile data breaches,

2:55 including the power school

2:57 breach that exposed personally

3:00 identifiable information for

3:01 tens of millions of students

3:03 and educators nationwide,

3:05 questions remain around. What

3:06 information is being collected

3:08 about students and who has

3:10 access to this information now

3:13 as someone who doesn't even

3:14 believe calculators should be

3:16 used in elementary school

3:17 classrooms. I look forward to

3:19 hearing today about how do we

3:20 is planning to protect student

3:24 data plans for updated

3:25 guidelines and a I and how do

3:27 we plans to ensure academic

3:30 integrity and rigor in light

3:31 of a I I now like to turn it

3:35 to chair delarosa for opening

3:38 remarks. Thank you so much.

3:39 Good afternoon, everyone and

3:40 welcome to our hearing, I'm

3:42 council Carmen, and I'm the

3:43 chair of the committee on

3:44 technology. I'm happy to join

3:45 my neighbor to the north

3:48 chaired Eric Dinowitz to

3:49 discuss an issue that I care

3:51 about deeply, not only as a

3:52 chair of this committee, but

3:54 also as a public school parent

3:56 who was concerned about the

3:57 future we are building for the

4:00 next generation technology has

4:01 become an unavoidable part of

4:02 our lives with artificial

4:04 intelligence, changing the way

4:05 we work, learn and mak

4:07 edecisions. This is why we have

4:09 an obligation to ensure that

4:11 innovation serves people and

4:13 that technological progress is

4:14 guided by accountability,

4:17 transparency, safety and

4:20 public interest, artificial

4:21 intelligent tools, artificial

4:22 intelligence tools are used b

4:23 ythe department of education

4:24 and its daily operations as

4:26 well as in claroomsss. The use

4:28 of a an education has raised

4:30 concerns that it affect

4:32 students critical thinking and

4:34 compromise the traditional

4:35 learning process, another

4:38 concern.

4:38 That people have related to

4:39 digit is related to digital

4:41 privacy safety and inequality.

4:43 Some my tools used personal

4:45 data as training data that

4:47 data could include students

4:49 information such as names,

4:50 dates of birth behavioral

4:53 analytics medical history,

4:55 family income, ethnicity and

4:58 even facial geometry without

5:00 proper safeguards could could

5:01 be used to profile students

5:03 predict or surveil their

5:05 behavior or make assumptions

5:06 about their abilities and

5:09 future opportunities.

5:10 This information can also be

5:11 breached. In fact, based on a

5:13 recent New York state come,

5:15 children report between

5:17 January 2023 in February 2025

5:19 dele experienced 141 data

5:23 breaches incidents based on

5:24 our conversations and public

5:26 reporting some tools used by

5:27 the dea we make a collect data

5:30 without parents, knowledge or

5:34 consent while a I offer

5:34 potential benefits in

5:35 education, it's ethical use

5:37 must be must be carefully

5:39 considered many tools have

5:41 bias and as a result

5:43 discriminate against certain

5:44 students or communities

5:47 . From the technology

5:47 committee's perspective

5:49 safeguards against bias in a

5:51 algorithms and protecting

5:53 student privacy are

5:54 fundamental issues that must

5:57 be addressed.

5:58 Today we wish to discuss

5:58 both how a I should fit into

6:00 the curriculum and how the

6:02 department of education uses

6:04 in its operations. We need to

6:06 make sure that a I support

6:08 students and teachers rathe

6:09 rthan undermining the quality

6:12 of education. We must ensure

6:12 that we are preparing the next

6:14 generation to thrive in this

6:16 technological error while also

6:18 protecting the rights and

6:20 future opportunities, lecture

6:21 inuits. I also joined my

6:23 colleagues and signing on to a

6:24 letter from our school

6:26 communities and we've heard

6:27 from our

6:28 . Calling on a two year

6:31 moratorium

6:31 . We look forward to hearing

6:32 testimonies from the

6:33 department of education and ot

6:36 to gain inside and clary

6:37 around the many questions

6:38 about in the classroom and the

6:40 use of in the education system

6:44 . We also look forward t

6:44 ohearing from members of the

6:46 public students, families,

6:48 educators and advocates.

6:50 Unfortunately, neither the

6:51 chief privacy officer under

6:52 the representatives of the

6:53 newly established office of al

6:56 accountability are here today.

6:58 However we look forward to

6:59 receiving their testimony,

7:00 which we've received and

7:03 responses in writing as the

7:05 school year is ending. I also

7:06 wish to congratulate every

7:08 student and teacher on

7:09 completing another academic

7:11 academic year. Now I'll turn

7:13 and now I'd like to thank

7:15 committee technology committee

7:18 staff, legislative councilor

7:20 council irene, but by

7:21 . Wolski. I am, I am learning.

7:23 I'm going to get it right? I

7:25 promise and policy analyst

7:26 Eric brown for putting

7:27 together this hearing. I'd

7:28 also like to recognize a

7:31 members of the council, who

7:32 are here of the technology

7:35 committee council members

7:39 showman Hanif and Gutiérrez

7:40 and we have swung and Wong

7:42 here as well. Thank you for

7:43 being here and I missing?

7:45 Anybody know? Okay, um, and

7:47 now we'll turn it back to

7:48 chair. Thank you. Thank you

7:52 chair. Additionally, today the

7:53 committee will also consider

7:55 the following legislation t

7:57 obill sponsored by council

7:59 member Susan. These include

8:00 introduction 684 in relation

8:02 to requiring a study on how

8:03 language access needs and

8:05 geographic location affect

8:06 access to early elementary,

8:07 gifted and talented programs.

8:11 An introduction 8 53 I

8:11 nrelation to requiring a study

8:13 on how language access needs

8:15 income and geographic location

8:17 affect access to special

8:18 education programs and

8:19 services I'd like to invit

8:21 ecouncil members you want to

8:23 make opening remarks about

8:25 these bills. Thank you. Cheer

8:28 . I'm here today. Asked if leo

8:29 support for my education

8:32 access for all the package in

8:34 2600 and David and the intro

8:36 853. I'm proud to put it this

8:38 pair of bills that together we

8:41 would go a long way towards

8:45 expanding education access for

8:47 all students, every child

8:49 deserves the education that me

8:52 meets

8:52 . Them where they are and help

8:53 them grow. Let's like

8:57 everything else in this City.

8:58 Children, you other borrows

8:59 have less access to

9:02 specialized programs than

9:04 others

9:04 . Children from lower income

9:06 families have less access and

9:07 the children for whom english

9:11 is the second language have

9:12 less access to, I believe that

9:16 all students deserve access to

9:18 rlimited due to wear the lived

9:24 what's their parent's income

9:25 or language they speak at hom

9:27 e. Both of these bills, ask a

9:29 to do a study. How language

9:32 access needs income and the

9:34 geographic location affect

9:36 access to education in 2604 I

9:38 nfolks on access to gift and

9:41 talented program while in show

9:44 8 53. It's about access to

9:47 spatial education program gap

9:47 seeing access to affects both

9:50 type of specialized, for

9:53 example, in sadly well known,

9:54 not enough black and the brown

9:56 students in specialized high

9:59 schools. But how can we? How

10:02 can brilliant black and the

10:03 students have the same chance

10:05 to get in when their

10:08 elementary's and the junio

10:08 rhigh school do not have gifted

10:10 and talented program that

10:13 other students have. We are

10:15 denying black and the students

10:18 opportunities and that must be

10:21 aunt. We should not be

10:22 thinking about him. Middle.

10:24 Eliminate those programs, we

10:26 should be extending them so

10:28 every child who can benefit

10:30 from them can getting into one

10:32 . We need to create a more

10:35 opportunity, not less

10:36 opportunity as another example

10:37 . It's also sadly really known

10:39 some children you out.

10:41 Boroughs need to travel alone

10:44 bus rights to get to the

10:46 school offers the spatial

10:48 education they need. It's a

10:50 yes, extremely burden for bot

10:51 hstudents and that there,

10:53 especially in the bad weather.

10:56 I still remember they have

10:57 parents call my office

10:59 . In the snow day, the school

11:01 is open. They have to trave

11:03 lthe kids have to travel more

11:04 than two hour to get into

11:06 school and the spend to 1 2

11:10 hours later and this school

11:11 have to end early and the

11:14 travel another two hours t

11:17 oget home. Parents. Those first

11:19 language is not english, also

11:21 struggled to learn about

11:23 opportunities available to

11:24 their children and how to get

11:25 to their children into those

11:28 programs reason only a few

11:30 examples we asked you to joi

11:32 nus in supporting both of these

11:34 both and those issues and the

11:36 other gaps.

11:37 And and I also want to thank

11:39 all of you who have already

11:41 cosponsored, and at the gates

11:43 came to testify and the rally

11:44 do with me today. Thank you

11:49 .thank you, councilmember

11:52 . Finally, the committee will

11:53 hear two bills sponsored by

11:55 myself pre considered into a

11:58 21 29 in relation to annual

12:00 reporting on algorithmic tools

12:01 approved for use in schools

12:04 and pre consider introduction

12:05 21 30 in relation to quarterly

12:07 reporting on data breaches of

12:10 algorithmicools t in schools

12:12 as we will discuss today ay ay

12:14 is already entering schools in

12:16 ways that are meaningful, e u

12:18 h, and perhaps detrimentally

12:19 shaping the educational

12:22 experiences of students as

12:23 well as the professional

12:25 experiences of teachers,

12:27 counselors, administrators and

12:27 everyone in between that makes

12:31 transparency critical.

12:32 Families and educators

12:32 should know what tools are

12:34 being used. What data they

12:35 collect, whether they have

12:37 been tested for bias and

12:40 accuracy and what happens when

12:42 sensitive student data is

12:45 exposed

12:45 . By requiring regular public

12:46 reporting on approved tools

12:48 and related data breaches

12:50 these bills will help turn a

12:52 oversight from a matter of

12:55 trust into a matter of

12:58 accountability I look forward

12:58 to hearing testimony from the

12:59 administration about these

13:00 pieces of legislation. Thank

13:01 you to all the members who are

13:03 here that have been named by

13:07 chaired. I would also like to

13:08 thank my chief of staff john a

13:09 . Klaus and my legislative and

13:10 budget director thea salter

13:14 education committee staff,

13:16 including counsel alejandro

13:18 carbaj senalior policy analyst

13:20 chloe rivera, policy analyst

13:22 katie selena, principal

13:23 financial analysts andrew lane

13:25 lawless and financial analyst

13:26 analyst grace amado for their

13:27 work on today's hearing, I

13:31 would like to remind everyone

13:32 who wishes to testified in in

13:33 person today that you must

13:34 fill out a witness slip, which

13:35 you can find on the desk of

13:37 the sergeant at arms near the

13:38 entrance of this room, please

13:42 fill out to slip even if you

13:43 have already registered in

13:44 advance that you will be

13:46 testifying in person today. I

13:49 also want to point out that we

13:50 will not be voting on any

13:55 legislation today to allow a

13:55 smany people as possible to

13:57 testify testimony would be

13:58 limited to two minutes per

14:00 person, whether you are

14:02 testifying in person or on

14:04 zoom. I am also going to as

14:05 kmy colleagues to limit their

14:07 questions and comments to fiv

14:10 eminutes. Please note that

14:11 generally witnesses who are

14:12 here in person will testify

14:14 before those who are signed

14:16 into the webinar, I would also

14:17 like to note that we've been

14:20 joined by council members

14:21 Linda Lee Kevin Riley him oka