Committee on Rules, Privileges, Elections, Standards and Ethics

Monday, April 6, 2026, 10 a.m. (New York City time), 250 Broadway - 8th Floor - Hearing Room 1

Committee: Committee on Rules, Privileges, Elections, Standards and Ethics

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The Committee on Rules, Privileges, Elections, Standards and Ethics, chaired by Council Member Sandra Ung, held a hearing on Mayor Zara Madani's nomination of Lisa Kersavage to be Chair of the Landmarks Preservation Commission. Kersavage, LPC's executive director since 2019, testified about her background, the agency's equity framework, permitting processes, hardship applications, and her priorities on housing balance, sustainability, and supporting property owners. Council members questioned her on landmarking pace, demolition by neglect, the Merchant's House, ADUs in historic districts, church hardships, public housing preservation, and designation standards. Six public commenters, all from preservation organizations, spoke in support of the nomination. The public hearing was closed at the end; no vote was recorded in the transcript.

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0:13 Very much good morning and

0:13 welcome to today's New York

0:14 City Council hearing for the

0:15 committee on rules privileges

0:17 elections standard and ethics

0:18 at this time I would like t

0:20 oremind everyone that sound so

0:22 electronic devices also at

0:23 this point going forward no

0:25 one is approached approach t

0:25 otheirs

0:25 . Till we're ready to begin.

0:31 Good morning and welcome t

0:33 othis meeting of the committee

0:35 on rules privileges elections

0:37 standard and ethics I'm

0:39 council ong a committee before

0:40 we we begin I would like t

0:41 orecognize other members of the

0:42 committee who are present

0:44 Council Member rally we also

0:45 joined by Council Member morte e

0:49 to the council to the

0:50 committee jeff campania and

0:51 the committee staff that

0:52 worked on today's hearing

0:54 director of pop integrity

0:56 francesca De La vecchia deputy

0:58 director of public integrity

1:00 alicia vassal and chief ethics

1:01 counsel pearle mawr by letter

1:04 dated April 24 2026 Mayor zara

1:08 madani requested advice and

1:09 consent of the council

1:11 regarding his proposed

1:13 appointment elisa casa vich t

1:15 obe a member of the landmarks

1:17 preservation commission today

1:18 we'll hold a public hearing

1:19 pursuant to section 31 of the

1:21 charter to consider this

1:23 nomination section 30 20 of

1:25 the charter establishes that

1:26 the New York City landmarks

1:28 preservation commission also

1:29 known as lpc is responsible

1:32 for establishing a regularly

1:34 landmarks portion of landmarks l

1:36 landmarks and scenic landmarks

1:38 and historic districts delpy

1:41 also regulates auto

1:44 alterations buildings della p

1:45 c consists of 11 members

1:46 membership must must include

1:47 at

1:47 . Least three architects one

1:49 historian qualifying the the

1:52 one City planner a landscape

1:53 architect and one realtor and

1:55 must include at least one

1:56 resident from each of the fiv

1:58 eboroughs members serve for the

1:59 term of three years and served

2:00 until the appointment of a

2:02 successor.

2:02 The Mayor also designates

2:04 one of the lpc members t

2:05 oserve as a chair of the

2:06 . Lpc and designate another

2:08 member to serve as vice chair

2:10 of the lpc these lpc members

2:12 shall serve until his

2:12 successor is designated the

2:14 members of the lpc the

2:15 exception of the chair serves

2:18 without compensation by

2:19 reimbursed for necessary

2:21 expenses and incur in the

2:21 course of performing their

2:23 duties the Mayor has expressed

2:24 his intent to designate the

2:27 New chair of the commission

2:29 the chairs current sally is

2:34 too hundred $23000 3 hundred

2:34 and 19c lisa savage joins us

2:35 today she has been on the

2:37 staff of that landmark

2:39 preservation commission since

2:41 2015 when she joins the

2:43 director of special projects

2:45 and strategic planning since

2:46 20 19 she has been executive

2:48 director of the agency in

2:49 which role she conceived

2:52 drafted and executed the

2:53 agency's equity agenda t

2:55 oshort diversity and inclusion

2:57 and lpc s historic

2:59 designations prior to joining

3:00 lpc from 20 12 2 20 15 savitch

3:04 was a project manager at the

3:06 van ela institute where she

3:08 oversaw a 3 million design

3:10 competition to develop a

3:11 sustainable vision of the

3:13 lower mississippi delta from

3:16 2004 2 2012 she worked at the

3:18 municipal art society as a

3:20 fellow the director of

3:22 advocacy and policy and as a

3:24 senior director of

3:26 preservation and

3:27 sustainability where she led

3:27 the campaign to construct a

3:29 monahan station she also

3:31 served as executive director

3:32 of the friends of the upper

3:33 east side historic district

3:35 from 19 99 2 2004 and from 1

3:40 997 2 19 99 where she was a

3:42 publication specialist as what

3:43 is now known as you know its

3:45 architects miss kay savage on

3:46 her bachelors of art and art

3:49 history from pennsylvania

3:50 state university and master's

3:51 degree in historic

3:53 preservation from columbia

3:55 university

3:55 . If appointed miss cassava

3:57 serves the savitch will serve

3:58 the remainder of a three year

3:59 term that will expire on jun

4:02 e28 2028 while come miss kay

4:02 savage and thank you for being

4:04 with us here today before you

4:07 begin please raise the right

4:07 hand to be sworn in your firm

4:10 to tell the truth the whole

4:12 truth and nothing but the

4:13 truth in your testimony before

4:14 this committee and an answer

4:15 recognized to give an openings

4:20 statement great thank you very

4:22 much herr good morning to you

4:24 and Council Member Marte and

4:26 two members of the committee

4:28 on rules privileges elections

4:30 standards and ethics I'm

4:31 honored to be Mayor mom

4:33 donnie's nominee to be chair

4:34 of the landmarks preservation

4:36 commission I believe the work

4:37 of l is important and that the

4:39 preservation of historic

4:40 resources can support

4:43 communities foster economic

4:44 development and contribute t

4:46 othe vitality of New York City.

4:46 I bring to the commission

4:48 more than two decades of

4:49 experience working at the

4:50 intersection of historic

4:51 preservation urban planning

4:53 and sustainability as well as

4:54 a strong track record of

4:56 executive leadership in both

4:56 government and the nonprofit

4:58 sector I believe my experience

4:59 and approach to preservation

5:00 will enable me to serve as an

5:02 effective chair and I hope

5:03 that you will support my

5:05 nomination an interest in

5:06 architectural history and

5:07 urban planning brought me t

5:08 othe field that is.

5:10 And has shaped the direction

5:11 of my career having a lifelong

5:13 dream of of living working in

5:15 New York City I was excited t

5:17 omove here for graduate studies

5:19 at columbia university where I

5:20 focused on the public policy

5:22 and urban planning aspects of

5:24 historic preservation after

5:25 working at the preservation

5:26 nonprofit friends of the upper

5:27 east side of start districts I

5:30 held senior positions at the

5:32 munich municipal society of

5:33 New York where the advocacy

5:37 was deliberately

5:37 interdisciplinary.

5:38 Looking at how preservation

5:40 can contribute to neighborhood

5:42 plans rezoning h's and

5:43 economic development projects.

5:45 That approach to historic

5:46 preservation has been an

5:47 important guiding principle to

5:49 me at a man I led a large

5:51 project to improve the energy

5:53 efficiency and sustainability

5:54 of historic buildings later I

5:56 was able to apply my

5:57 resiliency and climate change

5:59 interests leading an ambitious

6:02 design competition sponsored

6:03 by the environmental defense

6:04 fund and van allen institute

6:06 convening global teams of

6:08 interdisciplinary experts t

6:10 ore imagine a more sustainable

6:12 lower mississippi river delta

6:14 subsequently I joined lpc

6:15 . Where I've worked for 1

6:17 1years serving first as the

6:18 director of strategic planning

6:20 and special projects and for

6:20 the last seven years as

6:23 executive director.

6:24 The time that I've been at

6:26 the agency I have helped make

6:28 advancements to increase

6:29 efficiency transparency and

6:30 accessibility of our

6:33 permitting process to

6:34 designate significant historic

6:34 resources across the City and

6:37 prioritizing places that

6:38 reflect the city's diversity

6:40 and to educate property owners

6:42 about permitting processes and

6:44 grant opportunities taking on

6:44 the role of chair at this time

6:47 is personally important as I

6:48 am to help advance the goals

6:49 of the mondaini administration

6:53 to address affordability

6:54 increase housing and make

6:55 government work for all New

6:58 yorkers

6:58 . As chair addressing housing

7:00 issues will be a priority and

7:01 would align with my inner

7:03 dissident interdisciplinary

7:04 approach to the field

7:05 . Finding the right balance

7:07 between protecting the

7:08 character of New York city's

7:09 historic districts and

7:11 landmarks while allowing for

7:12 the development of New housing

7:13 is an obligation that I'm

7:14 confident in my abilities to

7:16 take on another priority for

7:18 me is continuing to advance

7:20 equitable representation and

7:22 designations prioritizing

7:23 those that reflect New York

7:25 city's diversity and that are

7:27 in areas less represented by

7:29 landmarks and striving to tel

7:30 lthe story of all New York er's.

7:31 In addition I believe it is

7:33 important to work closely with

7:35 agencies such as the

7:36 department of City planning t

7:38 oidentify opportunities for

7:40 preservation in areas planned

7:42 for gross supporting property

7:44 owners of designated landmarks

7:45 is another priority as shero

7:47 continue advancing our work t

7:49 osupport property owners and

7:50 ensure that we are issuing

7:52 guidance that is clear and

7:53 that we consider rule

7:55 amendments to expedite the

7:55 type of work typically

7:57 undertaken by small property

7:58 owners

7:59 . Another priority is

8:00 addressing sustainability

8:00 issues and our historic

8:02 resources encouraging work

8:03 that's sensitively improves

8:05 energy efficiency and

8:07 resiliency is important and I

8:08 will consider measures to

8:11 streamline permitting to

8:11 support this type of work

8:13 finally supporting and

8:15 nurturing lpc staff is also a

8:17 priority over my time at lpc

8:19 I've witnessed their

8:20 dedication to the field and t

8:22 othe New York City residents

8:23 that they serve and I'm

8:24 honored to lead such a

8:25 talented team I am excited for

8:27 the future of preservation in

8:28 New York City and thank the

8:31 City Council for considering

8:31 and supporting my nomination

8:33 as chair of the landmarks

8:35 preservation commission thank

8:36 you again for offering the

8:37 opportunity to testify and I'm

8:39 happy to answer any questions

8:40 that you have.

8:42 Thank you we also joined by

8:44 Council Member and I will ask

8:46 you some questions before I

8:47 turn over to my colleagues as

8:50 executive director lpc you

8:51 played a leading role in

8:53 crafting and implementing the

8:55 agency's equity initiative can

8:56 you explain what that is sure.

8:59 What we did in is look at

9:02 the agency wide how we we

9:06 improve equity transparency

9:08 across the entire agency so

9:09 some of that work was related

9:11 to making sure that our

9:13 permitting processes it's very

9:15 clear for everybody else

9:17 unusual agency and that our

9:19 applicants range from

9:21 individual property owners t

9:23 osay architects or land use

9:24 attorneys so we wanted to make

9:25 sure that the individual

9:28 property owners have equal

9:29 access to information that

9:30 they could apply to lpc on

9:31 their own and make sure that

9:33 our staff was working with

9:35 them closely to help support

9:37 them I think most importantly

9:40 to with our

9:41 . Landmark designations we

9:44 really sought to prioritiz

9:46 edesignations that reflect the

9:47 diversity of the City um and

9:49 to also look at designations

9:53 that geographically diverse in

9:53 the City as well and t

9:57 oundertake research that is

9:58 very inclusive that really

10:00 makes sure.

10:00 To tell those stories I

10:01 think especially telling the

10:03 stories of social justice and

10:05 civil rights is also very

10:06 important to us so we use that

10:09 as a framework to prioritize

10:12 designations over the last

10:14 several years and

10:14 . I think that work is very

10:16 important and will continue.

10:18 Thank you so when analyzing

10:20 whether a slight should be

10:21 landmark how should the

10:22 historic nature of its site be

10:25 balanced with its esthetic

10:28 uniqueness that's a great

10:29 question

10:29 . You know we the landmark's

10:31 law is quite broad but we over

10:34 the six years of the agency

10:38 have developed you know

10:40 criteria and comparative

10:42 analysis to really look at how

10:43 we can identify places that

10:46 merit designation typically

10:48 places are architecturally

10:49 significant but we also can

10:54 recognize historic significant

10:55 cultural significance and we

10:56 usually look at the

10:57 combination of all of them t

10:59 odetermine that significance

11:01 we've also been joined by

11:05 council Encarnación as

11:06 executive director how do you

11:08 respond to requests for

11:10 designation for

11:10 . Advocates do you can you

11:12 explain the regulatory

11:13 thresholds for these

11:15 designations sure um so l l p

11:18 c s

11:18 applications for

11:22 . Designations other cities do

11:24 that but we do have a process

11:27 to have people request whether

11:29 a site merit designation and

11:31 that's the request for

11:33 evaluation so those come into

11:35 us and our our research

11:37 department guided by our

11:39 director of research analyzes

11:42 whether the property merit

11:45 designation and we do a lot of

11:47 research into these sites and

11:48 then respond to the person who

11:50 sent it to us and importantly

11:52 that information goes into our

11:53 survey so if it is a place

11:54 that merits designation it

11:56 goes into her survey but it

11:59 doesn't necessarily lead to a

12:02 designation.

12:03 I'm sorry can you clarify

12:04 what does it mean going to a

12:06 survey

12:06 . So our research department

12:09 has surveys of historic

12:12 buildings historically

12:12 culturally and architecturally

12:13 significant buildings across

12:14 the City those are our

12:16 internal working dot um

12:19 guidelines for places and we

12:21 refer to them in environmental

12:25 review and other you know

12:26 analysis that we do some of

12:29 those we advance to designate

12:31 either as an individual

12:33 landmark interior landmark or

12:34 a historic district.

12:36 And do you explain that

12:39 whole process to advocates

12:42 about how you know

12:43 . How to get the designation

12:45 how do you explain the whole

12:46 process of advocates yeah and

12:48 it's and it's I admit a bit

12:52 confusing so because I think

12:53 people do often think there is

12:55 an application process for

12:56 designation so we do try very

12:58 hard to communicate that

13:01 clearly and I think you know

13:03 that that.

13:04 Advocacy organizations I

13:05 think understand that but I

13:07 think particularly individual

13:08 property owners sometimes

13:09 reach out to us or you know

13:12 other

13:13 . Other people we do in our

13:14 responses to people trying t

13:17 oexplain that and you know that

13:19 it's and if a building merits

13:22 designation that it doesn't

13:23 necessarily mean that we are