Subcommittee on Early Childhood Education

Wednesday, April 15, 2026, 1 p.m. (New York City time), 250 Broadway - 8th Floor - Hearing Room 1

Committee: Subcommittee on Early Childhood Education

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0:53 Your seats. Good morning

0:53 .welcome to New York City

0:55 council hearing for the

0:55 comedian early early childhood

0:56 k joined with the committee on

0:58 workforce development and the

0:59 committee on high education at

1:00 this time. Please sign all

1:01 cell phones, electronic

1:02 devices to minimize

1:05 interruption. Moving forward

1:06 .no one is to approach today is

1:07 chairs. We are ready to.

1:09 Begin. Thank you. Thank you

1:11 all for your patience. Good

1:13 afternoon. I'm Council Member

1:14 Jennifer Gutiérrez, chair of

1:15 the New York city's

1:16 subcommittee on early

1:17 childhood education. Welcome

1:19 to our hearing centering on

1:20 the early childhood educator

1:22 workforce development and

1:23 pipeline. I'm excited to be

1:24 joined by the chair of the

1:25 committee on higher education

1:26 Council Member reader Joseph

1:29 and the chair of the committee

1:30 on to work development council

1:31 member Julie one we've taken

1:32 some big steps towards

1:34 universal child care since our

1:35 last hearing, and this is

1:36 exactly the type of progress.

1:37 We've all been pushing for

1:39 ,but we can't stop here today's

1:40 hearing will examine a

1:42 significant problem in our

1:43 early childhood education

1:44 system, a growing shortage of

1:45 the educators that sustain it

1:48 as the City moves towards

1:48 implementing a universal child

1:50 care system, the workforce

1:51 will need to double in size in

1:54 order to accommodate projected

1:55 future enrollment a recent

1:56 analysis found that based on

1:57 average turnover rates in

1:59 earlyhild chood education

2:00 class, the City needs at least

2:02 5000 New educators every year,

2:05 childcare programs continue t

2:06 ohave some of the highest rates

2:08 of turnover with a survey of

2:09 New York City childcare

2:10 programs, finding that 52% of

2:12 centers report New, leaving

2:15 within five years with a

2:16 sizable percentage of our

2:18 teachers having over 20 years

2:20 of experience and nearing

2:21 retirement while our New

2:22 teachers are simultaneously

2:24 exiting the field we're about

2:25 to be on the brink of a stark

2:29 staffing shortage independent

2:29 of the expansion. If this City

2:30 is going to achieve a

2:32 universal child care system it

2:32 has to start with the pipeline

2:34 of teachers that will support

2:35 it to do so, the subcommittee

2:37 today will also hear pre

2:39 considered intro 2606,

2:41 sponsored by myself in

2:43 relation to establishing a

2:44 child care workforce, grant

2:46 and services program. And

2:46 while this hearing will not

2:48 acutely focused on the issue

2:50 of pay, parody and improved

2:53 benefits educators for

2:54 educators educational

2:54 assistance and staff with or

2:57 without union affiliations. We

2:58 . Do expect the admin to

2:58 answer some of those questions

3:01 today and we'll get an entire

3:02 hearing in the future to it.

3:05 Today we will focus on how t

3:05 equally as important to make

3:09 sure it is a sustainable one.

3:11 I looked to the success of the

3:12 New York teaching fellows

3:13 program of how we've been able

3:14 to increase our teaching

3:16 workforce and provide them

3:17 with unparalleled educational

3:19 support and remain committed

3:20 to providing the same support

3:23 to our hour

3:23 . Workforce will now pass it

3:24 to chair Joseph for her

3:28 opening statement

3:29 . Thank you, cec Gutiérrez as

3:30 a longtime public school

3:31 educator. The topic of

3:33 developing and recruiting

3:34 qualified teachers to wor

3:35 kwith our youngest children I

3:36 simportant to me as a chair of

3:39 the committee on highe

3:40 reducation. I want to know more

3:42 about how cooney place such a

3:44 significant role and ensuring

3:46 that our youngest New yorkers

3:47 get a good start on the

3:50 education path. I also want t

3:51 oensure that any New yorkers

3:52 who have interests in or

3:54 experience, but early

3:55 childhood education as a

3:56 career path are able to get

3:58 the credentials they need t

4:00 oenter or to advance that

4:03 workforce. I'm happy to say

4:04 that cuny is playing a very

4:05 active part in preparing these

4:08 workers.

4:08 Currently approximately 360

4:11 0working towards a degree and

4:12 early childhood education a

4:15 great variety of certificates,

4:17 advanced certificates

4:18 associate's degrees bachelor's

4:20 degrees, masters and other

4:21 credentials in early childhood

4:26 education, including with

4:26 bilingual and special

4:27 education. Focuses are offered

4:30 at various cuny community

4:31 college and senior college

4:33 colleges. In addition, the New

4:35 York the New York early

4:38 childhood professional

4:39 development institution, which

4:40 is a public private

4:41 partnership at cuny works t

4:44 oprovide comprehensive support

4:46 for early childhood

4:46 professionals at every stage

4:47 of their current korea journey

4:51 . As cuny chancellor phyllis

4:51 the felix.

4:53 Mottoes rodriguez recently

4:55 noticed, noted, this is a

4:56 moment where we need to meet

4:58 the demand for their workforce

5:00 . I look forward to this

5:01 discussion. I would like to

5:02 thank my staff and the staff

5:04 committee on higher education.

5:05 Giovanni piquant my chief of

5:06 staff julia goldman pickman

5:10 ,the committee's senior

5:10 legislative council region and

5:11 paul, the committee senior

5:13 legislative policy analysis

5:14 and allie. So for the

5:17 committee's financial analysi

5:18 s. Thank you, chair, Gutiérrez

5:21 . Thank you, chair, Joseph I

5:22 old non pass it to chair one

5:24 for her opening statement.

5:25 Thank you so much hair, goatee

5:26 and Joseph for your

5:28 partnership on this important

5:30 hearing three moms.

5:31 Here sharing this hearing,

5:32 so thank you so much for being

5:35 here and my name is really one

5:36 and I have the privilege of

5:37 sharing today's council and

5:38 committee of workforce

5:40 development in partnership

5:41 with early childhood education

5:42 and higher education and

5:45 today's hearing. We're looking

5:46 to understand chraonically

5:47 understaffed and underpaid

5:48 profession. We're we're here

5:48 to discuss what the city's

5:49 workforce development and is

5:50 doing about it because every

5:52 single one of us are living in

5:53 every single day. If my

5:56 aftercare, my child care

5:57 cannot provide the right

5:58 amount of teachers or student

6:00 ratio. It's going to be a very

6:01 hard day at work for me early.

6:04 Tallet educators are a

6:05 cornerstone of New York cit

6:06 yand without them, families

6:07 cannot continue to justify

6:08 raising their children in the

6:09 City we cannot have a

6:11 conversation about the future

6:12 of New York without talking

6:12 about the future of early

6:14 childhood educators

6:15 livelihoods before us today we

6:16 have New York city's.

6:20 Talent, the city's central

6:21 body for aligning agencies

6:22 with educational institutions

6:23 and provide private partners

6:24 around workforce priorities

6:25 and this committee wants t

6:26 ounderstand whether New York

6:27 City talent is treating this

6:29 crisis with the urgency it

6:30 deserves as well as the

6:31 celebrations that we've been

6:32 having a lot of victory laps.

6:35 There are over 36000 early

6:36 childhood educators in New

6:38 York City right now and the

6:38 City needs at least 5000 New

6:40 ones every single year just t

6:43 okeep pace, the weightless for

6:44 preschool special education

6:47 teachers is over 3400 students

6:49 , hundreds of classrooms are

6:51 currently empty because

6:52 there's no one to staff them

6:53 and over 40% of the current

6:55 workforce is nearing

6:59 retirement age. A recent

6:59 survey of the city's child

7:00 care found that over 50% of

7:02 center's reported their New

7:04 teachers leave within five

7:05 years. So even when we do

7:07 bring people in we struggle t

7:11 okeep them.

7:11 Why did they leave. What can

7:12 we report details that it is

7:14 because of abysmal wages

7:15 despite high educational

7:17 financial barriers to entry.

7:20 This includes $525 certificate

7:21 application with $250 renewal

7:25 for childhood development

7:25 associate or $160 exams a

7:28 hundred $4 or 50c for

7:30 fingerprinting and $600 for a

7:33 New york's New York state

7:33 teaching certification. This

7:34 does not include the cost to

7:36 go to college or training for

7:39 these positions so that means

7:39 that you're paying anywhere

7:40 from 75 200 k just for

7:42 undergrad. Then you're paying

7:44 an additional hundred k or

7:45 more for your higher education

7:47 for your master's degree and

7:47 then on top of that you're

7:48 throwing up about over a

7:50 thousand another thousan

7:51 ddollars for all these

7:52 certificates on the

7:56 fingerprinting yet despite all

7:57 those costs that's already

7:57 what over $200000 a debt that

7:59 you be in if you can't afford

8:00 to pay all that in cash. All

8:02 of that just for a median wage

8:05 of $69000 a year, which is

8:07 less than the 20 25 median

8:09 salary in New York City,

8:10 according to the state

8:10 department of labor

8:14 . It's not lost on me that

8:14 this policy is deeply gendered

8:16 most people who occupy these

8:17 roles are women, particularly

8:18 immigrant women and women of

8:20 color who take on this work

8:21 with pride and joy for our

8:25 future generations

8:25 . We're not just talking about

8:27 wages here as any parent with

8:28 a taller here knows kids will

8:30 always get sick and they also

8:31 expose our workers to

8:34 illnesses daily as I eat m

8:35 yhalls as I live with two

8:38 . Toddlers. It is important

8:39 for us to provide them with

8:41 adequate and fair access to

8:43 health care coverage to boost

8:43 our retention rates for our

8:43 teachers. We need to find a

8:48 way to connect these dots

8:49 before the spiral goes into

8:51 full blown crisis to give

8:52 credit words do New York City

8:53 talent has made some

8:54 investments by contributing t

8:56 ocuny early childhood education

8:58 apprenticeship program, but

8:59 last however, in New York City

9:00 talent release its workforce,

9:01 innovation and opportunity act

9:04 , also known as w ay oh ay

9:05 local plan for 20 25 2 20 29

9:09 and did not identify early

9:09 childhood education as a

9:13 priority sector. This

9:13 committee wants to understand

9:14 why that was and what New York

9:15 City talent plans to do about

9:19 it. We want to understand how

9:20 New York City talent

9:20 coordinates with you, the

9:22 department of education and

9:23 the office of trump and early

9:25 childhood education to build a

9:27 real pipeline into this field

9:28 and whether this

9:29 administration is prepared t

9:31 omake early childhood education

9:33 a genuine workforce

9:34 development priority through

9:35 budgetary commitments and

9:36 meaningful investments in the

9:37 sector as we come to we come

9:39 .we're nearing the end of

9:41 fiscal year 26 and finalizing

9:43 the negotiations for fiscal

9:45 year 27. I look forward to

9:47 hearing from the

9:48 administration on all of our

9:49 witnesses today and to a

9:51 productive discussion about

9:51 how the council can support

9:54 this work.

9:55 Because we know that the

9:55 governor and the Mayor has

9:56 been making a lot of

9:59 celebrations for the beginning

10:00 of two care to care for 200

10:02 0students as well as three k

10:04 fully funding and pre k. We

10:06 to camp three k because inre

10:12 districts like mine and in

10:14 neighboring districts. We're

10:15 still struggling to get kids a

10:15 seat of the table or at the

10:18 school before we begin. I want

10:20 to thank my committee staff

10:21 senior counsel outs pollen off

10:23 senior policy analyst william

10:24 hauge, knack deputy chief of

10:25 staff now live in my district

10:27 manager theresa tone my

10:28 financial analyst spencer kun

10:31 for their work and preparing

10:33 for today's hearing, I'll now

10:33 turn it back to two charge.

10:37 Joseph. Oh, just kidding. Sure

10:38 . What he did her opening

10:38 remarks. I'm going to turn it

10:39 back to the they were good

10:41 remarks we should hear it

10:42 again, but we but we won't,

10:43 but we want what we want. We

10:45 started it. Thank you bot

10:46 htoday we'll hear from the

10:47 mayor's office of child care.

10:49 The, uh, cuny, the City

10:50 university of New York, the

10:52 office of talent and workforce

10:53 development, the department of

10:55 education as well as other

10:56 early childhood educators

10:56 ,providers and stakeholders.

11:00 Additionally, I'd like t

11:00 oremind everyone that this

11:01 subcommittee has launched a

11:02 form for providers you can

11:04 check board on my website and

11:06 on socials. I want to thank

11:07 the members of the early

11:08 childhood education

11:09 subcommittee who have joined

11:10 us today, Council Member

11:12 Joseph Council Member Kevin

11:13 Riley, who is with us council.

11:17 Felder. Um, I think those are

11:17 the folks on the committee and

11:18 I'd also like to acknowledge

11:21 the problem on, um, obscene

11:25 areola, lewis Maloney

11:28 . You know, it's, of course,

11:29 education shared dinner with

11:30 who had to step out for a

11:31 second and is anyone on.

11:33 Two. Oh, and council membe

11:34 rfelt, I guess he's on my

11:37 committee. Thank you. One more

11:40 . Council members, some co

11:40 felda. Additionally, thank you

11:43 to the staff are set of staff

11:44 for the subcommittee, julia

11:46 goldsmith, pinkham, katie

11:47 selena great tomato angeline

11:49 lawless and margaret bronze,

11:51 barnsley as well as my own

11:51 staff on your lair, Frank luc

11:54 a, I'll allow further work on

11:54 today's hearing and finally

11:55 thank you to everyone who

11:56 assigned him to testify and

11:58 for being here instead of an

11:59 outside in a beautiful day. We

12:02 look forward to hearing from

12:03 all of you. I want to remind

12:04 everyone who wishes to testify

12:05 in person today that you must

12:06 fill out a witness slip, which

12:07 you can find on the desk of

12:08 the sergeant at arms near the

12:10 entrance of this room, please

12:11 fill out the slip, even if you

12:13 have already registered

12:13 advance that you will be

12:14 testifying in person, if you

12:16 wish wish to testify on any of

12:18 the legislation, please

12:18 indicate on the witness slip

12:19 whether you are here t

12:20 otestify in favor or in

12:23 sition. I also want to

12:24 point out that we will not be

12:25 voting on any legislation

12:25 today to allow as many people

12:27 as possible to testify. We are

12:28 limiting it to two minutes per